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Colosus of Rhodes replicated Alexander
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 1:10 pm
by iskander_32
AndrewI was very interested what you said about the Rhodes statue replicating Alexander.
ot of ages and time I have seen programes where the ifigy of Alexander has been used in many statues and portraits,as it was regarded the Alexander physique was the ideal shape and specimin of the classical era.I once saw a historical documantary where the narrater even suggests that the effigy of Jesus christ on the cross with his head inclined is alsop Alexander.I dont know how true this is but it brought a smile to my face that maybe when I see the christian son of god we may be actually looking at our Alexander.regardsKenny
Re: Colosus of Rhodes replicated Alexander
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 1:19 am
by S
Greetings,I find much of the mythology of "Jesus" has connections to earlier mythologies, too; and somewhere I once read an entire article comparing Alexander and "Jesus" but the title and author escapes me. I think it was mentioned on this site once before- does anyone recall?Regards,
Sikander
Re: Colosus of Rhodes replicated Alexander
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:12 am
by beausefaless
Greetings KennySometimes the parables between Alexander and Jesus makes me think then I compare, even the opposites show some similarities. I say to myself how much of Jesus' life was taken from Alexander's, the opposites modified and Christianity produces the perfect human (son of god).
If I recall correctly, one of the face cards in the poker and pinochle deck of cards is a reflection of ATG, which one I don't remember. Interesting post!RegardsAndrew
Re: Colosus of Rhodes replicated Alexander
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 9:12 am
by amyntoros
I think the face card is a jack, though I've seen Alexander referred to as both the Jack of Clubs and the Jack of Diamonds. There are "connections" to Alexander everywhere, many of them highly amusing. Did you know that according to medieval alchemy, Alexander was buried with the Philosopher's Stone in his arms? Not the Harry Potter one but the one that holds the secret of turning base metals into gold. Oh, and he is supposedly also responsible for rice pilaf because he told the Indian cooks to come up with a dish that his army could actually eat! There are many more of these - I started to compile a list for amusement, but can't lay my hands on it right now. Best regards,Linda Ann
Re: Colosus of Rhodes replicated Alexander
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 11:49 am
by beausefaless
Thanks Linda AnnI had a feeling it was the*Jake* I ponder the one eyed Jack comparing Arrian's One eye was as blue the sky and the other dark as night but of coarse I wouldn't have a clue. I gave the King a thought but due to the young looking face I'd always come back to the Jake. If you ever come across your list give me a look, I'd love a good smile and I thank you for your time in advance.All the best,Andrew
Re: Colosus of Rhodes replicated Alexander
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 1:20 pm
by iskander_32
This is a very interesting post, can I de a little controvetial.I have several Christian friends who are actually salvation army Officers,needless to say they spend a lot of time trying to get me to see there light.Sometimes I bring the topic of Alexander up,and often get asked What Alexander left behind in comparison with Jesus.Would I be out of order if I told them he left an image for Christians to pray to,,, the Christ on the cross.Andrew I feel you are spot on with your comparisons to Jesus also,are we to believe that our man was the first son of god.Sorry folks.Kenny
Re: Colosus of Rhodes replicated Alexander
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 1:38 pm
by S
Greetings Linda,What would be the chances of you posting these in our collection of Alexander mythologies?Regards,
Sikander
Re: Colosus of Rhodes replicated Alexander
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 9:20 pm
by amyntoros
I will take a look for this list - I think it may be lost amongst a pile of more serious research. Then maybe I should post it here and let Nick take a look and see if he wants to add any of the stories to his myths page?I don't know of the site specifically comparing Jesus to Alexander, but I did see a curious web page recently that connects him with Jewish history. It has the usual quotes from Josephus, but also claims that Macedonians are the lost tribe of Israel and the golden box found in the tomb in Macedonia might be the Ark of the Covenant! Not to mention a more vague paragraph that implies a connection between Alexander and Gabriel. I treat these kind of websites with a very cynical eye - after all, anyone who has the money can make their own web page. This one is particularly jaw-dropping, but it does demonstrate how strong Alexander's influence can be over people, even today. :-)
http://www.blackraiser.com/alex.htmLinda Ann
Re: Colosus of Rhodes replicated Alexander
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:03 am
by marcus
Well, Kenny,You could always tell your proselytising friends that, had it not been for Alexander, Christianity wouldn't have spread as far and as fast as it did, thanks to the social/economic/political conditions that Hellenisation brought about. If it hadn't been for Alexander, Christianity might have remained nothing more than a localised mystery cult.All the bestMarcus
Re: Colosus of Rhodes replicated Alexander
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 12:00 pm
by smittysmitty
Hi all,enjoying this thread very much :)Another story that immediately brought 'Moses' to mind when I first read it, was Plutarchs account of various historians mentioning a miracle performed whilst travelling through Pamphlyia. It was suggested by these historians that the tide receded allowing safe passage for Al, and a poem (comic)written by Menander goes as follows...
Like Alexander, if I want to meetA man, he's there before me in the street,And if I am obliged to cross the sea,The waves at once will make path for me.
Not sure if it relates to the'Jesus' line, but perhaps has similar origins?cheers!
Re: Colosus of Rhodes replicated Alexander
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:32 pm
by amyntoros
Thanks for posting the poem!

I'll add it to the few I've gathered on Alexander - later poets such as Dryden, Lyly, Kingsmill Finch, etc. Do you know any more early or Greek poets that mention him?Linda Ann