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Alexander's cartouche (again)

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:25 am
by marcus
A couple of weeks ago we were speculating how AlexanderGÇÖs name appeared in Egyptian hieroglyphs.IGÇÖve now had a chance to reference my rather over-exposed photo (from the barque shrine at Luxor Temple) with a rather helpful book I have, which has drawings of the cartouches of around 50 pharoahs, and a handy hieroglyphic alphabet.SoGǪ AlexanderGÇÖs name appears in his cartouche as ;LKSINDRS (the semi-colon being a glottelstop that obviously took the place of the A).As it happens, Philip ArrhidaiosGÇÖ cartouche transcribes as PYLPW[S] (the last letter isnGÇÖt clear GÇô my book isnGÇÖt *that* handy); Ptolemy is PTOLEMYS; Cleopatra is KLIOPADRAT[?] (last symbol completely unidentified).When IGÇÖve got my scanner up and working again IGÇÖll see if I can get some of the cartouches and my photos scanned in, and perhaps we can get them on the site?All the bestMarcus

Re: Alexander's cartouche (again)

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:50 pm
by amyntoros
Hello Marcus:Wanted to leave a quick reply before I forget. I'd love to see images of the hieroglypics and of Alexander from the temple. I have a couple of photographed images on my screen saver and an old painted postcard from Egypt (from the fifties) but I've never actually been able to isolate the name of Alexander. :-)Best regards,Linda Ann

Re: Alexander's cartouche (again)

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:00 am
by marcus
Well, I'm hoping to get my scanner up and running this week, so will see what I can do.My photographs aren't brilliant, unfortunately, because the lighting in the shrine isn't conducive to great photos (especially when you keep your flash *on* - and I don't have a digital camera that would allow me to see how they turned out. But with some computer wizardry I should be able to make them a bit better for viewing.All the bestMarcus

Re: Alexander's cartouche (again)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:18 am
by maciek
Heh that's why I was so dissapointed - I had digital camera!! But well I will scan all I did and maybe together with Marcus's photoses it will give good overview of the shrine. Maciek P.S. My scanner doesn't work completely but I will do it at work;-))

Re: Alexander's cartouche (again)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:14 am
by marcus
Hi Maciek,I'm looking forward to seeing your photos.The ones I took of the entire wall didn't come out at all, unfortunately. I took two of the cartouche itself, which weren't so bad - although somewhat overexposed.Oh dear, I'll have to go back and take more care!All the bestMarcus

Re: Alexander's cartouche (again)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:49 am
by maciek
Well it's shame for me to say but honestly I made great panorama picture of the wall (inside the shrine)but in the main part - from left side without... the hads of the figures... My wife after this, seeing how sad I was, said to me few times that we will go back there after two years and we will make 5 pictures in every squere meter of the wall... How fullish I was I could make even 20 picts by digital camera... ehh I hate to be hurry...Maciek

Re: Alexander's cartouche (again)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:13 pm
by marcus
Ouch. That must have been annoying!Perhaps we'd better not become professional photographers, Maciek. I don't think the world is ready for our brand of surrealism ... :-)I'm going to try and sort out my scanner tonight ...All the bestMarcus

Re: Alexander's cartouche (again)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:38 pm
by maciek
No it would be definatelly bad choice for me to became the photographer... Well and You know I found another strange behavioure in myself... If I have digital camera what do I need for the scaner?? Eureca!! Well my work get's me frustrated;-)))
Maciek (confused and ambaresed)

Re: Alexander's cartouche (again)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:12 pm
by maciek
OK this is it the first and the worst one.
http://ebozz.site.ashst.com/photos/6151.jpg
This picture has to be enlarge then more details can be visible... well not the heads... http://ebozz.site.ashst.com/photos/6152.jpg
http://ebozz.site.ashst.com/photos/6153.jpg
http://ebozz.site.ashst.com/photos/6154.jpg
And the view from outside the temple:
http://ebozz.site.ashst.com/photos/6155.jpg
Enjoy watching;-))) I have also cartouche picture but also ruined... It was extreemly bad luck then.
Maciek

Re: Alexander's cartouche (again)

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:24 am
by marcus
Hi Maciek,Those are great, actually - far better than mine!But my cartouche picture isn't so bad.I tried to get my scanner working last night but had a few problems. I think I know what the problem is, though, and ought to be able to sort it out at the weekend. Then I'll be able to scan my stuff in.All the bestMarcus

Re: Alexander's cartouche (again)

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:19 am
by maciek
Thanks Marcus but it could be much better. Next time I'll make so much pictures that I could make a puzzle with them.
But next year we are planning to go to Rome.Maciek M

Re: Alexander's cartouche (again)

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:19 am
by marcus
Ooh! You will enjoy Rome. I haven't been there for about 18 years(!) and I know I hardly scratched the surface when I did. I really want to go back.But first I'm going to go to Iran - that's my grand plan, anyway... you can guarantee that I'll be taking a *very* good camera, and taking *a lot* of care over my photos!All the bestMarcus

Re: Alexander's cartouche (again)

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:28 am
by maciek
I read almost all the time now about the Rome and times of Augustus. The city is realy great. My camera will be ready then;-))Maciek

Re: Alexander's cartouche (again)

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:34 pm
by marcus
Do make sure you see things other than the ancient Roman stuff, though, won't you? The Vatican Museum is really good (lots of Hellenistic sculpture there, too), and of course the Sistine Chapel (which has been cleaned since I was there but was incredible even when dirty). I believe they've done a lot of work to the Colosseum since I was there, too - well worth a visit.Don't forget you're not allowed to put your feet in the fountains any more, however hot it is. I've been in an Italian police station and I can tell you you don't want to get arrested!All the bestMarcus

Re: Alexander's cartouche (again)

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:32 pm
by maciek
Oh thanks for the advice!! I had some not very nice "adventures" with police in Slovakia... I know that in some countries they like to use the foreigners. Well my wife will not allow me to concentrate only on Roman places - Vatican will be one of most importand points there. I hope I will be ready to sight-see the Rome the same like before the visiting Macedonia. Thanks Marcus!!
Maciek