Getting Excited Yet?

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jonah,,, As you have stated numerous times,,, You find nothing to admire in Alexander with waht he did.For his so called crimes and misdemeaners as yoiu said.I cant for the hell of me understand why you spend so much time here with such interestn.And worse I cant understand why as you feel you do,, Would you take your children to see a film about a guy who did so many nasty thinks,, Do you have some morbid fascination with that siode of his character.As a parent myself no way on earth would I introduce or show them a movie about a guy who i thought fundamentally bad or evel.JonahYpou dont make sense,,, Are you against violence and brutality,,, But enjoy watching and wallering in it.Kenny
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Movie violence and real violence

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"You dont make sense,,, Are you against violence and brutality,,,"I can make a smart reply like "of course I am against violence and brutality, are you suggesting you're for it?" - but that would be missing your point. You are right, I am inconsistent.As I see it, things are not very clear-cut, and indeed, one's personal experiences (do you have children, did you serve in the army...) play a role.I suppose that we will see Hollywood style violence, which children easily recognize as fake. The violence in movies like The Matrix or Spiderman is simply not real, and if the boys like it, I won't object. I like comics to.On the other hand, if Stone shows us something like the reality of a battlefield or a murder, I think I don't want to see it and I will object against children going to the movie. Perhaps children are stronger than I am, but I don't want to run this risk.If I may make a rather personal remark, in 1982, I saw how a one-year old boy was shot down by a member of the PLO. When I had to see this Mel Gibson movie about the death of Jesus, I had some very unpleasant memories coming back to me. On the other hand, I still enjoy westerns.You are certainly right in calling me inconsistent, but I suppose that inconsistency is inevitable.Jona
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Jona,How familiar are you with Stone's movies? You will definitely see battlefield death in detail. You might be advised to let someone else see it first to determine whether or not you should see it.I myself, am far too familiar with death, alas. You get hardened to it after awhile, that's when you know you've been there too long and gotta go.
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Re: Getting Excited Yet?

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There is a fairly widely distributed pic of Farrell laying spreadeagled on his shield, arrow in his left side being balanced on the outstretched arms of his men overhead.It's not exactly a spoiler :-)
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Re: Movie violence and real violence

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There's also a strong case for showing the brutality of a battlefield, so that people can learn what a horrible thing war is. I remember going to see "Saving Private Ryan" with a group of friends, and we all agreed that it should be compulsory viewing for all 15-year-old boys. Unfortunately, of course, it's all too easy to separate film from real life, and it's too easy to become inured to this sort of thing. One becomes hardened to movie violence as much as one can become hardened to real violence and death, as Tre says.It's a difficult one. I'm not particularly keen on *real* violence and war, but I do enjoy watching battles etc. at the cinema - so I can completely empathise with Jona's inconsistency. I'd rather see a realistic fight in a film than a watered-down version ... but I'd run a mile rather than get into a *real* fight!All the bestMarcus
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